xPattern - General Discussion

Community Driven (no replies)

hcgtv — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:39:52 +0000

Long time no post :)

Was testing out Gallery3 beta 2 today, giving it a test drive since they're heading towards a slimmer code base. Ran into some issues and started reading their support forum.

Gallery has little to do with xPattern you might be saying, but the reason I'm writing this post is because I came across this: One of the beautiful things about using git as our source management system, is how easy it is to fork a project and integrate patches from the forks.

I would of tacked it onto the Community driven SVN branch thread, but it was closed.

xPattern features (1 reply)

towndock — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:57:13 +0000

Reading the forum, it sounds like a usable initial release of xPattern is near. Can someone provide a simple list of key features/differentiations that xPattern has vs Textpattern. I'm trying to understand the advantages of xPattern vs the new release (4.07) of Textpattern. Thank you....

Bitbucket vs Launchpad (5 replies)

jm — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:54:08 +0000

Poll: Repo-host

Should we stick with Launchpad or move to Bitbucket? bzr and hg are quite similar, in terms of usage and commands, so the only real difference is the code-host.

Repos:

[bitbucket.org] (converted bzr repo to hg)
[code.launchpad.net]

+-------------------------------+------------+-----------+
| Feature                       | Bitbucket  | Launchpad |
+-------------------------------|------------|-----------+
| Automatic packaging/downloads | Y          | N         |
| Email diffs                   | N          | Y         |
| Issue tracker                 | Y          | Y         |
| Mailing lists                 | N          | Y         |
| Fast*                         | Y          | N         |
| Wiki                          | Y          | N         |
+-------------------------------+------------+-----------+
* As in browsing the site, pushing, and pulling. (Not entirely accurate and
  unbiased - based on my ~1700 kbps down / ~115 kbps up connection.)

repo moved to bitbucket? (1 reply)

milkshake — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:51:11 +0000

I saw some xpattern activity over on bitbucket.org

Is the code hosting moving over there, or just testing the waters?

Launchpad's new look (3 replies)

hcgtv — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:19:11 +0000

Launchpad has gotten really nice lately:

[launchpad.net]

Is xPattern available?[SOLVED] (11 replies)

sonofdel — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:47:37 +0000

Hi, sorry if this is a dumb question, but is xPattern available? I found the download section, with installation instructions etc, but could not figure out where the download was.

cheers

Mark

Original XPattern Concept... (4 replies)

variaas — Sat, 17 May 2008 09:43:33 +0000

I remember when XPattern wanted to create custom content types that would allow you to not only create articles, but also contacts, books, movies, etc. I'm back in a situation where I need something like this, and wonder if anyone here could recommend a solution that's available today.

Food for thought (8 replies)

hcgtv — Sun, 11 May 2008 00:03:57 +0000

Hey,

Over the last week, I've come across a couple of interesting social community projects:

Flux is .Net based, powers sites like Happy Slip.

Ning is PHP based, founded by Marc Andreessen and Gina Bianchini.

This is how I see the future of the web, pick and choose what widgets you want on your site. It's the reason Expression Engine is so popular, they are a one stop shop with a CMS, Gallery, Forum and now a Wiki component.

Is xpattern going anywhere? Status update please. (no replies)

mattmikulla — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:56:48 +0000

Hello. I'm a textpattern user. I realize that txp is lacking in plenty of things and development is questionable or not going forward as many of us would like.

I've bounced around this forum a little bit and haven't found much about the progress of xpattern.

I would love to help but programming is not my thing. I'm more of a user.

What is the status of xpattern?

Where to? (13 replies)

hcgtv — Sat, 03 May 2008 14:36:19 +0000

Over the last few months, interesting things have happened.

a) Mary has left Textpattern.
b) Sencer admits to having no time for Textpattern.
c) The Textpattern code base was moved to Google code, Joyent dropped the ball on the Trac install.
d) Dean Allen started to blog again after a 4 year absence.

This leaves Ruud and Wet to code and support Textpattern 4.0.x, not much time to work on Crockery.

Which begs the question, where to?

sections > categories > templates > articles (no replies)

colak — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 07:35:45 +0000

Apologies for the long(ish) absence.

Quote
austin
Section was moved to the Content area because this is how user thinks about sections.

Sections are one of txp's semantically unfortunate conventions. I agree with austin's proposal of moving them to the content area and for that, txp's semantic model has to be reinvented for xpattern's purposes.

What will sections do and what will their difference be to categories?

In the real world the coexistence of the two will probably help in multi-level navigation or article organisation such as:

section-1>category-1>article-1
section-1>category-1>article-2
section-1>category-2>article-3
section-2>category-x>article-x
etc

The above works well with txp. The problem now is how to ensure that a non-knowledgeable end user will be selecting the right templates for the content they create. Although with txp the semantics are wrong, the implementation of how articles are organised and presented seems to work wonderfully.

So how will xpattern be handling templates?

Difference between xpattern & textpattern (3 replies)

Tye — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:26:50 +0000

OK - I've got a few sites to make and thought I'd give xpattern a go - 1 because I'm all for improvement, and 2 to try and help you guys out with development, as I've used most of your plugin's.

But, from a designers point of view, what is the difference, or what differences will I notice?

I have already installed xpattern - and it looks exactly the same as textpattern!

Will I be able to use the same plugins, template tags and so on or is the difference mainly in the php framework of the application.

Sorry for the dummy questions :)

Thanks

Who is working on redesign of backend? (16 replies)

alex — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:05:12 +0000

Hi, just wonder who is working on the backend redesign:
who is doing the concept, and who the design?
who is programming, writing css etc..?

Textpattern Core (3 replies)

zero — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:48:54 +0000

I feel the whole community would benefit if the different points of view about the Textpattern Core Code were presented in a simple and unbiased manner. So I invite those who know what they are talking about to send me their short answers to my questions below. I will then publish them on TXPQ. There will NOT be a discussion before publishing - the aim is to present concise summary answers so that the average user like myself can have a better understanding of the technical issues which have led to the fork in the road of TXP development.

Respondents should send their answers to peter at txpq dot com before 6pm GMT on Tuesday 19 February. I will not disclose any answers to anyone else and the first time you get to see anyone else's answers will be around 8pm that night when I publish the article.

Please just state the facts as you see them. I will cut out anything I consider to be unfair or inflammatory. Please note well that this is for people who know the Textpattern core code well enough to give fully informed and helpful answers and because of article length I'd prefer no more than 3 or 4 TXP and 3 or 4 XPT respondents. Thank you very much for your help and co-operation. Here are the questions.

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With the benefit of hindsight, would you rewrite the Textpattern core code differently? (1 or 2 word answer)

Roughly speaking, what percentage of the 4.0.6 core is good and what percentage is bad? (1 or 2 word answer)

Why is the good part good? (no more than 2 sentences)

Why is the bad part bad? (no more than 2 sentences)

Which major parts would you rewrite differently? (no more than 1 sentence)

Which minor parts would you rewrite differently? (no more than 1 sentence)

What is the best way to improve Textpattern? (no more than 2 sentences)
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Such length limitations may be frustrating but please stick to them and leave extra detail and grey area discussions for later. If you absolutely MUST go into detail use a link.

Forum date format (2 replies)

Tranberry — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:13:22 +0000

Just want to clear something up, is the date format like this month/day/year on this forum?

Official Textpattern abbreviation (9 replies)

jm — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:24:04 +0000

Poll: How do you abbreviate Textpattern?

Vote on your Textpattern abbreviation. Many a choices exist, even the common-amongst-newbs "TP."

logo request (3 replies)

alex — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:25:54 +0000

Hi xPatterns,

anybody around who has the correct xPat logo as jpg or whatever. I would like to get it to post an article about xPat...
best, alexandra

xPattern - Your Questions Answered (15 replies)

Manfre — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:56:20 +0000

What is xPattern?

xPattern is an open source fork based upon the 4.0 dev branch of Textpattern. Its goal is to improve the application to better fit the needs and desires of the community.

The biggest change you will notice in the initial release of xPattern will be a redesigned admin interface. The current UI is outdated and doesn't have a consistent design between tabs.

Note that this is not the xPattern initiative that first cropped up and faded away months ago. mrdale was kind enough to let us use the name.

Who are involved?

Team xPattern and a few others who have yet to create accounts on LaunchPad.

What is LaunchPad?

LaunchPad is a collaboration site that enables decentralized developers to work together without the expected chaos. It was created for the ubuntu linux community and is now used by many open source projects.

What started this?

Over the years, there has been a very noticable communication gaps between the core developers and the rest of the community. They have done a very good job of helping those in need, but for those of us who would like to give back have felt stunted. Repeated outcries for direction and lack of feedback on submitted patches have left a few of us feeling like unwanted outsiders. xPattern discussions started as a community driven branch (hosted by textpattern) that would give these now jaded members of the community a centralized outlet for their talents. A place where we could colloborate on code and design that would streamline the process of us giving back to Textpattern. Both Mary and Ruud shot down this idea for various reasons. Rob and Sencer provided no feedback. The momentum of those involved was not slowed by this and we continued to move on with our desire to colloborate and make Textpattern better.

What about Crockery?

Crockery has been in the incubator for a very long time. Only the core devs have any idea of if/when it will be released. There is no posted feature set or goals for the release, beyond switching the license from GPLv2 to BSD to allow for commercial plugin development.

Are you done helping out with Textpattern?

Short answer, no. Our code will be synchronized with the 4.0 dev branch of Textpattern. It will be very easy for a Textpattern dev to merge our work back in to Textpattern. The devs have stated that 4.0 is on feature freeze and the xPattern changes cannot be merged in to Crockery because of incompatible licensing.

The xPattern crew still frequents the textpattern forum and chat in the #textpattern IRC channel. I'm not sure how much our involvement will be in 6 months, but that depends as much on Textpattern as it does on xPattern.

What about the plugins?

A few of us run many sites and routinely install 5-30 plugins to get needed functionality. We don't like having to do this all the time and will be resolving this in a few ways that are still being discussed. Changes we make will break plugins, but we will do our best to ensure the functionality exists on xPattern. This will be done by either adding features in to the core or updating plugin code. Team xPattern consists of a few of the more active txp plugin developers and our initial changes will help insure better long term plugin compatibility.

Wordpress gets $29 million in funding (3 replies)

hcgtv — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:33:16 +0000

News here and here.

So it begs the question, is it about the refinement of the code or getting it out into the most user's hands?

Bazaar vs. Subversion (6 replies)

raas — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:11:34 +0000

I'm trying to figure out how to download so as to be able to update a local version of the xpattern-1.0 branch. I'm know how this works with Subversion, but so far Bazaar has me a little puzzled. Any good tips or tutorials out there that might get me up the initial learning curve here?

First (1 reply)

Manfre — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:52:41 +0000

This truly is the first post. I win.